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Bruce:

What's the scientific evidence behind healing with sound? Can you share some of that with us?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yeah. Well, there's so many different levels that sound works on. It's really interesting because if you take music for example, and you break down music and how and why it affects people just as a traditional song, like from the seventies, like classic rock or something, pop music on the radio, you're really talking about several facets working together. And that would be like lyrical content. You know, the lyrics that are being sung, the emotional connection to those lyrics, whether it's about heartbreak or triumph or, victory or whatever it is that they're singing about. And the listener really, relates to that. And then also you have the emotional qualities, the melodies and the tempo and the things that are really driving the song that a person connects with because they need, uh, you know, uplifting or a pumped up energy to chill them out.

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

So these types of elements of music work in that way, and then you have the intention behind the music and the frequency when you're talking more about sound healing and a lot of the qualities when you're using it for meditation or sound bath. And so there are so many multi-facets that it works on, but as far as the evidence, what we're seeing is that a tempo and frequency has the ability to help facilitate new brainwave states in the body. Someone who has anxiety …

Bruce:

So just, just stop there for a second. Yeah. It creates new brainwaves, what? What does it do?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Brainwave states.

Bruce:

New brainwave states. So is that like new neural pathways? Is that the same kind of thing?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

It's not exactly, but it's very similar in the thing that like a new neuropathway would be creating a new perspective or new outlook for a certain problem or issue or condition. But the brainwave state would be like, when you're in a sleep state, your brainwave is … before we hit REM sleep, your brainwave will go into a theta pattern, very relaxed, the state just before deep sleep. Right. And so every state of the brain, whether you're working or active, you have different brainwave states. And so if there's a problem, like someone who's stuck in an elevated brainwave state and cannot relax, super anxious has a lot of pain. Right.

Bruce:

And they're feeling scattered and they're feeling kind of all over the place. And like, they can't focus that kind of feeling. We've never been there. Have we, Ian?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yeah. I'm still there quite frequently. I still use the music as a tool for all of that.

Bruce:

You're feeling that way. You're feeling like you can't focus and you don't know why things are like crazy in your head. Then you put on a certain piece of music at a certain frequency and you must have certain go-tos that you would put on certain selections.

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yeah, definitely. My personal favorite is one that we've developed with the company, which is 390.6 Hertz. And we've dubbed it, the frequency of peace, just because of the last four or five years working with this frequency. Every person has developed some kind of personal attachment to it. And each one talks about the peacefulness of that frequency and it happens so much. We just said, hey, this is the frequency of peace.

Bruce:

That is so cool. And isn't that available for people to sample or something like that?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yeah. Actually on Spotify or Apple music, you can sample the 390.6 Hertz. It's called ‘Belief Code 21'.

Bruce:

I know that you told me about this before and everything. And I went and checked it out, but I mean, for my guests belief code, and then what's the number 21? ‘Belief Code 21'. How easy is that? So you go on Spotify, search Belief Code 21, and then you can deal with that feeling of being scattered and it can sort of slow yourself down. Now, what about if you feel like you need more energy, you know, you're kind of on the other side, you're kind of like, Oh, I'm kind of feeling in a lull. And I kind of feel like I need more of that. Is there music that will do that?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Well, first, what I deal with when people are needing to be uplifted is we do upbeat tempos and that's one of the first things you target, then you're going to also see what other issues the person's going through. And you're going to start picking a frequency that coincides with not only uplifting their mood and getting them a little more active, but also the frequency that's pinpointing … like for instance, if someone's dealing with pain, the 174 hertz off of the Solfeggio scale, you know, that is a great frequency to work with pain. And then you could just use it with an upbeat track that has some drums and a little bit of upbeat music. But tempo is really effective. If you look at a sporting event where they pump people up. So you're looking at like 120, 160 beats per minute. And what it does is it gets the crowd amped up. It's not just the melody that they're playing. It's the actual tempo that actually boosts a person's energy level,

Bruce:

So this can be different for different people depending on where you're at, right?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yes, exactly. And so we try really hard to help people learn, to go in, go within, you know, um, ask themselves some questions and really get to the pinpoint target. Like for instance, I'm feeling really tired, but is that because I've been super anxious this entire week. I started a new job and I'm on edge all the time. I'm not taking any time for breathing or self care or meditation. Or is it actually that my nutrition's off, I'm not eating as much as I was. I'm super stressed that on top of that, you know, there's a lot of different things that you can pinpoint, help people get to the root cause of what's going on. But it's definitely something that music across the board, you know, a lot of people who come to us for coaching, you know, assistance, we call it personal frequency coaching.

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

And so they'll learn about sound healing, how it helps how to facilitate it in their life and then some bass frequencies to start with. But when we're talking to those people, the first question that we ask is how much are you listening to music? Not sound healing, just music, how much are you listening to it? And 90% or more of those people who were coming in were saying, I don't have time for music. I don't really listen to music anymore. And what we're finding is that just music in general is such a great tool for mood, you know, facilitating a different brainwave state, as well as mood, a mood enhancer, you know? And so a lot of times people cut loose. Like they listen to music again, they're dancing while they're cooking in the kitchen, you know, just different things. And they don't realize how crucial it is.

Bruce:

I think we know that and we forget it. Don't you think so? Yeah. We know like, Hey, you know, we go to a party and the music's upbeat and I feel really good and it's exciting and everything, but then we kind of forget that on a day to day basis, we can use music for that too. And I think it's very cool that sometimes you create custom music for people who have specific problems in their life, right? Like specific pain, or if they are experiencing depression, don't you create specific music for people who are in that space?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yes, we do. Most people that are coming to us that are getting custom music are businesses or people who are looking for branded music, like a guided meditation life, coach hypnotherapy, sometimes yoga studios. There's just different people have us custom make music for them that they can then turn into products. A lot of the people who are coming to us that are looking for healing. We have 88 CDs in our discography now.

Bruce:

You have 88 CDs. Don't you create a CD every month? Do you still do that?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yeah, we still do that. So we're making a new CD every month. That's based on the astrology energy, as well as the current events. And so we create a CD for the collective energy and then our affiliate program. They get those albums every month.

Bruce:

Right. Your affiliate program. So that's like a membership, right? That's like people can join. It is like a membership. You get the CD every month. Like that is pretty awesome. Isn't it? And so how do people do that? I guess we've got a link set up don't we, so that people can go to that link. Mindfulnessmode.com/LTSmusic, which stands for listening to smile. That's the coolest name, listening to smile. So go to mindfulness mode.com/lts music, and you can sign up for the affiliateship and the membership basically like getting an album a month. And what do you, what else do you get? You get an album a month. I know that you just give, give, give, give, tell us more about what you, what you offer for people.

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yeah. So Dana is our cofounder and Dana, basically every Monday, she writes a recalibrate Monday email and it gives them some ideas for utilizing the music in different ways with their clients. It also gives them ideas for events to host that month, you know, that week, I guess. And it comes with different intentions and different focuses, you know, using the program. They also get a download each month of all the astrology information. So that has all the dates in case they wanted to make an event coincide with like a new moon or full moon or anything astrological. Then they also, they also get all the intentions and frequencies behind the music so that they really know kind of behind the curtains, what each song is about how they can utilize it with the clients. You get the backstory. Yeah, exactly.

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Kind of like a behind the music, you know. That's very cool. And then they also are able to resell the music to their clients. They can also use, utilize it on social media, videos, podcasts, things like that. And then they also are able to resell the program to other holistic practitioners or other people that would utilize the music in much the same way. Pretty awesome. Yeah. They get a finder's fee for each referral. So we tried to make it to where they're also getting training for Sonic meditation so that they can host their own events based around the music. So there's a lot condensed into the affiliate program. There's a lot of multiple avenues to monetize the program once you're a part of it too,

Bruce:

Training for Sonic meditation. Can you tell us a little bit more about that?

Ian Morris (Heal With Sound):

Yeah. So the Sonic meditation is basically a soundbath and guided meditation combined. Um, it has a little bit, we incorporate a little bit of white flow yoga in the beginning. It's got intention and breathwork and you know, intention setting exercises and breathwork exercises. And then it has a soundbath portion. Each event lasts about an hour and a half long. You'll utilize speakers, aromatherapy and then basically just the facilitator hosting the event and working with the people. And then after the event, the albums are available for sale.

Bruce:

That is amazing.

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